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10-21-2010, 4:02 PM
There are some 5 pages of feature requests - a lot of which are duplicated. And vastly down on the number in the old forum, which tells me we probably lost a lot of engaged users.

I thought I'd consolidate some of the requests/threads. I'm going to group them into FUNCTION and CONCEPT. The crossover may be entirely random, but it would be nice if people could comment and get a sensible discussion going so that beta users input can go into the final product (which after all is the purpose of a beta program, right?

Swype is revolutionary in concept, but others are running with the ball already and from a philosophical point of view if you're going to be revolutionary, there's little mileage in being shy about it. So, these requests are ones that I hope will encourage Swype to thing bigger..

1) Alternative keyboard Layout.

As my comment in the thread states, a radical rethink here is missing. Not just in English, but in other languages paths sometimes are very very similar - and this is entirely due to using legacy keyboard layouts. Dvorak and Latham created their layouts to address specific issues of the day (Latham to make typing slower and mechanical keys stick less and Dvorak to even up the load and reduce RSI). The Swype team need to find a layout - optimised for each language - that reduces or nearly eliminates the number of similar paths. This would also have the effect of reducing the size of the algorithm about word choices (which needs continual optimisation anyway) and reduce build size.

2) Custom Keyboard Layout

A majority of English speakers are not native. That means that even if you force users to use a QWERTY layout or an optimised for English layout (see above), users are going to be in an unfamiliar environment. Which reduces speed. Allow them to define the layout, perhaps from pre-chosen formats. A French English speaker has no use for a Qwerty layout, so including one is just a waste of code. All they need is the path algorithm for the language they are in.

3) Custom Text Shortcuts

Swype was introduced to us as a new FASTER way to type (and the emphasis on the tutorial bears this out), so why not include that old BlackBerry feature? Granted there are enough complaints about contact names being added to the dictionary which is a standard feature on phones since shortly after T9 was introduced anyway but this one is about speed. Which is what the concept of swyping was about anyway. Wasn't it?

4) Predefined Cases and Auto-Capitalisation

Another BlackBerry feature.. (There is a reason the RIM devices have been so popular among a spending demographic - they get/got a lot of things right). Albeit when I first supported this issue I was unaware of a "work-around", but still it's extra flicks and swypes that could be avoided. Especially if you want to CamelCase something.. RoIs, EoDs, KPIs anyone?

And why is it even legal to type monday anyway? Even the dictionary in the browser I'm typing this on recognises the difference between monday and Monday. Swype should too and auto-capitalise. Once again, what's the point of making my entry faster if I have to go back and correct? We're not all 13 year old girls.

5) Historical Word Prediction

This is definitely missing - even the stock keyboard has it. Again, it's not revolutionary per se, but it does fight against the basic concept of speed (not to mention that if you've gotten used to this it's quite jarring not to have it. In the same way that if you've gotten used to having Swype not having it feels very analogue). T9 even has it (although it's easier to implement there because of the keypress), but in this day and age it's about my device conforming to me, not some product manager's idea of what was good.

6) Options

All of these are essentially options - some of which should have been driven (1 and 2) and some of which could be implemented as just ease of use. Most android apps have more options than you can shake a stick at, but not Swype - and yet it's the ONE application we use on the phone more than other (apart from the launcher, perhaps). it has control over all we do - but we have very little control over it.

7) Sell it.
And a ton of others in the old forum.

We all get it. Swype exists to make money. And you can make millions in one go by signing up with an OEM. But this is the age of choice and user-bases. And Swype is a product that people crave. It really makes a difference. And you have a ton of users crying out to give you money for it. Sure, there's a risk of piracy, but frankly the APK is moveable anyway, and a decent programmer could probably deconstruct it in a few days (if they can jailbreak an iPhone, you really don't stand a chance). Perhaps you don't want to sell it because of the perceived customer support issues. But this is also the age of crowd-sourcing.

1) Fix the damn Hidden Word Pop-up already..DONE!

By far the threads with the most comments. FreedomPeace had a good suggestion. If you really can't remove the code section that controls it, at least disable it after the first time for that word combination. PLEASE.

2) Voice Input/Smiley Button
and a ton of others.

Not one I want personally, but I can see why people want it. Or at least want it in place of the smiley button (which I never use - I agree with the comment about 3 character smilies and have all mine entered into the dictionary in 2 character format). Perhaps it could be swype-able? i.e. swype key+smiley key changes it to voice input and vice-versa (as swype and q do for the languages)? Seems easy enough to implement and there's certainly a willing audience.

3) Dictionary Woes

From complaints about poor and missing words in the dictionary (particularly in languages other than English - but they are in the English one too), to the ability to back it up (as someone who inputs 5 smileys and close to 40 time combinations as a work around to other issues - see above - I can attest to this. My work-around is to keep a separate file on the server with them all in there. Fortunately you can more than one word to the dictionary at time.
But surely the easiest solution would be to use the local dictionary and dismiss dictionary complaints forever?
Until then there will be at least clamour to be able to go in an edit it from a specific interface.


10-21-2010, 4:02 PM

4) Smaller Requests and Niggles

AJAX - and support for AJAX means that often a whole word is unnecessary. That sucks for a keyboard that relies on the whole trace of a path to define a word. Admittedly, this could be resolved by making the word selection waiting period closer to zero - except that for most keypresses a single press doesn't put that letter at the top of the selection list (only a and i in English).
HTML allows you to define numeric fields which when correctly implemented automatically change T9 keyboards (and indeed other QWERTY boards) to numeric input only. Again, in the interests of speed and for a smoother experience, this should be in the product.

Hiding the keyboard. Plenty of reasons. Looks cool too. Could even be useful when implemented with a slide-to-hide options/numeric keyboard overlay.
This could be THE defining keyboard on the burgeoning smart-phone market - but smart phones are getting smarter quicker than keyboard designers. And using CTRL, ALT and ESC keys becomes ever more useful (VNC, Terminal Emulators, etc). I dare say the ability to have a MAC key or a FN key as options would also be useful. I appreciate space is an issue, but there are plenty of ideas.

Swype came with a lot of innovative features, but there are so many more that would raise the bar even more. And some basic little things that just grate. Say I'm typing $100. I have to long-press the $ and then swype the SYM+F combination and tap out my 1-0-0.. and now I have a space between the $ and the 100 ($ 100). Which is annoying. Swype got it right for the ( and @ characters, why not the $? Conversely when you longpress " it doesn't leave a space which is correct, but then to doesn't leave a space after the second one either which is "not correct"don't you agree?

Why can't we swype long numbers without having to go to the keypad and peck like chickens? Rcbbcyxdvgg isn't even close to a word, but it would be 18008374966 - the support number for Verizon and the algorithm should have no trouble realising the user isn't drunk or illiterate, but wants a number.

5) Languages
More threads than any other.

Granted the Sept release was brilliant in adding a bunch of languages, but this is always going to be a pain point. Still, it is nice to be able to end this thread with a pat on the back. But more languages please!

10-25-2010, 4:28 PM
Thanks for taking the time to consolidate all of these requests!


Kel Ghu
10-26-2010, 4:24 AM
Very nice!

10-29-2010, 3:06 PM
Hi, I know you touched on most of these already, but I wrote this thread a while ago and felt like drawing some attention to it. Its just a list of issues I've had myself with swype. You didn't mention the letter 'i' issue in your list so maybe you didn't have that and its an isolated case on my phone. Can't think why that would be though, I've re-flashed the firmware a good three times already.

Is there any news at all about when they're going to finally release a working version of this thing? If i get another damn "hidden word" notification I think I'm going to have to put in an insurance claim for "phone accidently hammered into wall".


10-29-2010, 3:51 PM
Replied to threefingeredjack in his original thread: http://forum.swype.com/showthread.php?1354-Collection-of-Bugs-and-Requests-For-The-Swype-Development-Team&p=8160#post8160

11-02-2010, 7:47 AM
By thread count (only of what's listed), reduction in dictionary aggravation tops the list of requested improvements. Why not make it top of the list here? To sort of draw attention to it.

I think what makes it so vexing is that it's such a noticeable problem, yet at the same time, seems to the layman (hello!) to be easy to fix. Get into the file with even a basic text editing program. No?

Kel Ghu
11-28-2010, 2:55 PM
They don't hear us. I have seen no improvement whatsoever in 9 months (beside addition of languages). And I am using both the beta and preloaded (always updated with latest android build of my phone maker).

Beta still writes names in priority. This is an easy fix. Not done.
Hidden Word pop-up. Easy fix again... When will it be done?
And I can go on...

Developers could take a week and bring us at least half of the requested features. Easily. What's going on?

12-17-2010, 1:56 PM
As I get time, I'll be marking off some of the requests that have been done. Made a start, but I don't want to go gung-ho on the smiley/voice input one until I've reviewed the original threads.

Strike-out text would be nicer ;)

12-21-2010, 8:38 PM
For those of us for whom English is not the only language we use on a daily basis, I'd say having an easier way to switch between languages has a higher priority than all other feature requests.


12-21-2010, 8:58 PM
For those of us for whom English is not the only language we use on a daily basis, I'd say having an easier way to switch between languages has a higher priority than all other feature requests.


We have a keyboard gesture just for that purpose! Trace a path from the SWYPE key to the Q key to switch back and forth between the two most recently used languages. Simple, eh? :)

12-22-2010, 4:46 AM
We have a keyboard gesture just for that purpose! Trace a path from the SWYPE key to the Q key to switch back and forth between the two most recently used languages. Simple, eh? :)

Holly cow!!! I had missed this at all!
Does the start up tutorial mention it? I don't remember anything about this.

Anyway, Swype is again the best app ever! :D:D:D

01-10-2011, 4:02 PM
Not a request for a specific language, per se - Auto-Translate. Picking a 'from' language and then a 'to' language.
i.e. I swype an English word/document that gets translated into French.

01-10-2011, 4:27 PM
We have a keyboard gesture just for that purpose! Trace a path from the SWYPE key to the Q key to switch back and forth between the two most recently used languages. Simple, eh? :)

I've tried doing this with my Samsung Galaxy S but it doesn't work. I just get the swype error message stating that it doesn't know what to do. I need to press the language key (alt, then Q) to get the language selection pop up before I can switch between French and English.

01-14-2011, 1:22 PM
Just thought I'd check in and see if anything was available in the way of updates? Something to address the many and varied issues everyone has copiously described, over and over, for the past year... Anything? Just one? Just get rid of that pop-up... that would be a start. Even if you bring out update after update for each individual problem, I'm sure you won't get any complaints about it. Please for the love of god...stop it from telling me that I have added words to the dictionary. I know this. I added them. I was there. STFU about it now. And why does it auto-capitalise the second word occasionally since the froyo release? Its a whole new irritating bug! Can't wait until the next android upgrade to see what fascinating new quirks swype produces. And you ask us to vote for swype to be "best touch interface"? Give us some incentive first, maybe we will.

03-19-2011, 2:46 AM
for not only-english speakers, switching the language is reasonably easy and i have no good idea how to improve on it. that switching language implies switching the keyboard , however, is REALLY BAD. i switch often between german and english and the layout difference is QWERTY to QWERTZ, annoying but manageable. i have to type french - IMPOSSIBLE with swype: the keyboard layout that comes with the french vocabulary is VERY different and unusable for non-french natives (for whom the english keyboard layout must be a horror).

proposed solution:
allow the user to select a keyboard layout (in settings) and language switch does only vocabulary switch, but leaves the keyboard as set by the user. (start with a reasonable default , based on the devices 'primary language' for keyboard and language and most users need never bother, but the people that have to type in multiple languages are served).

03-21-2011, 6:12 AM
the beauty of Android is the ability to do everything with 1 hand. One of the features would be nice to have is fast switching via multiple ways.
for ex: in Stock android keyboard you can cycle through keyboard by swyping on the space key (easy switch for stock Android users). in Swype the space key is very narrow due to the unnecessary "tip" button.
Another very useful way to switch the keyboard (as in HTC sence one) is by using volume rocker (best of all).

RECOGNITION PROBLEM. When using voice recognition Android only uses the default language. For example if I have other keyboards on Swype: English, Spanish, Russian. I switch to Spanish keyboard and I'm trying to dictate a msg in Spanish it tries to apply English lang. recognition language. Same story in Russian (no, it's not my accent :))

05-01-2011, 9:44 AM
Please add my feature request to the list:'
"remove tab" because "no space in front of next word" is more useful during "press and hold of space key":

05-05-2011, 8:04 AM
Any chance you will implement support for tablets that only have WiFi?

Ross Byrne
06-14-2011, 3:05 AM
Good to see you've got points that i'm wanting:
1) smiley button, probably a long press on the the symbol button/replace the swype key.
2) qwerty number positions
3) !/? on the keyboard in place of the voice - make voice a long press on spacebar or something.
4) swipe delete - start on backspace and swipe left to delete a word. Swipe up to delete a sentence. [Swipe down to undo?]
5) Remove the swype key and replace it with useful input related things thing a smiley menu [customisable] or long press for voice. That's a lot of real estate you've set aside for something that's unlikely to ever get used [if you can *long-press on a word in the pop-up dictionary to remove it*].

My other keyboard is the SwiftKey Beta which does historical typing excellently along with better symbols & long-press word delete.

NB love the change to the new text prediction! Thanks!

Caitlin Garner
06-21-2011, 8:32 AM
An option to turn off word prediction when Swyping, please. The keyboard already takes up half my screen. Version 2 was much better in this regard.

Andrew Kisielius
06-26-2011, 2:41 PM
A couple additional feature requests I haven't seen elsewhere. Apologies if this is the wrong place for them:
- Long press on space to choose languages, like in stock Gingerbread keyboard
- Don't auto-correct single character words by default

06-30-2011, 11:57 AM
Looks like this thread should be un-sticked as its first post is misleading as completely outdated.

07-09-2011, 5:39 AM
I could really use a directional pad as part of the keyboard. Even if I need to tap a key to get to it, most of the issues I have with the jumpy cursor would go away.

07-24-2011, 10:12 AM
Could the currency symbol that is currently on the S (for English users) be linked to the language selected? eg I'm a Brit so having the instead of the $ would for me be much simpler. I imagine the same thing would hold for Europeans that use the Euro symbol.

Edit: Sorry, posted in wrong place by mistake. Noob!

07-24-2011, 10:19 AM
I could really use a directional pad as part of the keyboard.
Try swyping from the Swype key to "SYM" (directly aside), and there you have a utility-pad!

Long press on space to choose languages, like in stock Gingerbread keyboard
Long press on the Q (with the "EN" on top) and you get your language selection. Or swype from Swype key to Q to switch between your languages.

08-23-2011, 8:36 PM
custom skin aking to the nexus s 4G

09-01-2011, 12:19 AM
For me, with an HTC Desire, the top priority is to reduce Swype's memory footprint. With the new beta, I choose the English/Spanish option, and it's down to 5.2 Mb. I gain about 8 Mb of internal memory. Woo-hoo! But I don't use Spanish at all. I use English and French, about equally. So now it's back to changing to the default keyboard if I want to write in French.

Please, please add more English/xx language combinations to the installation options.

09-07-2011, 7:18 PM
Very nice!http://www.amovos.info/gongsi.jpg